Let me make a disclaimer and preface this by saying I'm not trying to argue for the sake of arguing nor am I trying to be "mean" or break the rules, I'm just peacefully expressing a consumer's/a paying customer's point of view. I'm not trying to be rude and I'm totally calm here, just so NO ONE gets the wrong idea. I mean no ill will or harm, but I AM speaking frankly.lee4_cmp wrote:[Max Social Link or Friendship] codeKitsune wrote:In that case I have to delete the code. SW isn't meant for unlocking Trophies.
If Sony sees we are posting codes meant for Trophies we could see an end to SW if they wanted to, and Trophy codes give them that reason.
Sorry guys.
What two codes? I already got one of them, what's the other one?lee4_cmp wrote:To any Moderators
what rules on codes made just for trophy hunting
I see two them in this topic / thread
viewtopic.php?f=115&t=983#p4873
and
viewtopic.php?f=115&t=983&start=20#p5021
I ask this sincerely: What do you want us to do, not max out our stats? If a trophy happens to pop because of it, that's not our fault. You can't tiptoe around every single code just because it happens to pop a trophy, that means less and less codes overall. That gets really annoying over time. Most of the time we really genuinely just want to max or edit our stats and some of us really don't care about trophies and we don't intend to pop them by using them. I don't want the product I paid for to get MORE restrictive and less worth the money and thus less productive and convenient. Even if you don't host the codes here, someone else will and someone else has probably already backed it up as we speak. It's the Streisand effect. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect) Or at least let us do whatever we want in Advanced Mode, so long as we don't do it in quick mode. (I personally don't care for trophies as they are pointless and unnecessary to me. In fact I wish that they were either optional for accounts or didn't exist at all. I feel the same way about Xbox "achievements".)
I am sure some of the existing official codes probably make trophies pop up even if it doesn't intend to.
Don't assume there's a credible threat from Sony until there actually is and they give an official warning, otherwise it's just paranoia. I haven't seen them go after the Bruteforce Save Data people on PS3, for example and I haven't seen Microsoft go after everyone who use Xbox 360 save editors and reshash + resigning programs (I'm one of said Xbox 360 people), it's not going to happen here on PS4.
If you can get it legitimately by reaching whatever the goal of the trophy is, using a code is not going to matter that much. What they do dislike is things like hacked PS4's with custom firmware and things like that, THAT'S what they're going after.
Either way, keep in mind that we're the ones that's paying for all of this in the end, that's what nets you guys a profit and that's what keeps your product and servers running.
Instead of removing the codes, why not simply remove talk of trophies period? Leave the code up, remove the talking about trophies, problem solved. Removing/censoring/witholding codes from customers is not the right move or answer.
I highly doubt that Save Wizard is going to be shut down and completely removed by the big boogeyman Sony because of a few codes.
Sorry, I had to get that get that off of my chest after seeing removal after removal of codes from the PS3 Game Genie all the time, which slowly annoyed and frustrated me over time and eventually turned into growing disappointment. I guess this is the straw that broke the camel's back and caused me to speak up, since I don't want a repeat of that here.
Not to mention that this isn't the official forum for Save Wizard. It would be wrong to remove the codes. (It's already been done, but my point still stands.)
Basically, please don't punish us because of people who want to use it for more malicious things like attempting to get trophies, that is NOT our fault and we want NOTHING to do with them, so please don't lump us in with them. Don't censor and remove codes because of it. Don't blame the code because of it, since it's not the code's fault.
That's all I wanted to say and I'm sure the mods don't want this discussed further because of what's already been said and will say "End of story", so I won't say anything further at this point and will consider it "end of story" on my end. I'm just saying what a fair bit of customers of both Game Genie and Save Wizard have been thinking for a while now.
Thank you for your time.